Some have asked...
"Why do you ban people from the POGM Chat rooms for disagreeing with you?"

Truth is, this is not what we do at all. People that have been banned are merely lying to try and lower our characters so as to lift theirs in your eyes. They actually believe that "gain is godliness." (1 Timothy 6:5) To prove they are lying, there are some people that have been coming to the chat rooms now for over 6 years (as of 2007) that don't agree with our statement of faith 100%. But they are NOT banned. Stop by and ask them, you will see. We started preaching like this in audio chats back when Firetalk was online. After Firetalk went bankrupt we went to other audio chats for a few years only to find more and more problems with people that hate Truth. So we prayed and the Lord blessed us with out very own audio chat room which by the way is based on our very own servers!

The POGM audio conference is designed for people with questions about their faith, doctrines, or prophetic symbolism. Truth is, most people that come to the conferences the first time disagree with us on many counts. Some have been coming for years that disagree with us. In fact, that's how it usually is for those of us seeking to educate the world as to biblical jurisprudence. The Lord sends them our way, and we do what we can. It's up to them to make the decision for or against the truth.

Yes, some do eventually find themselves banned from the conference rooms. But only after they show an unChristlike spirit in handling themselves. For example, people are only banned for the following reasons...

The second reason needs a bit of explaining of course. As I said earlier, most that come to the chat room are already questioning our faith. That's why they come. They want to know more about it. So we discuss it with them. When someone comes in the room preaching heresy, we gently stop them and share with them in one of two ways.

  1. If it's a topic we as a church body have already come across, discussed, studied, and compiled the Scriptures proving what we preachr online. We direct them to that page and ask them to study it out before discussing the topic.
  2. If it's a new topic we have never come across as a group yet, we then discuss, study, and compile the Scriptures with them at that time. Later that study is posted online of course.

If after hearing, or reading the evidence we have already compiled, and they still continue to preach heresy, we again gently stop them but this time we alert them that since we as a church group have already studied this out and agreed it to be heresy, continuing to preach such a message here will only be seen as combative. So we ask them to please stop and drop the subject immediately. Truth is, would you walk into a Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, or Adventist church to expose some of their doctrines on their pulpit? Of course not. That would be considered hateful and disrespectful. If after being asked to stop they persist in preaching error, we ban them.

So, if they're saying we ban them because we simply disagree, they are simply lying.

BELOW WAS POSTED TO THE POGM BLOG ON APRIL 22, 2007

Dictator or Careful Shepherd?

In today's world of advanced technology, we now find ourselves able to have our home church services broadcast online in a bevy of different ways. One such way to do this is with an audio conference room where anyone with a computer may enter in. People, who would never have the desire, or perhaps even the courage to visit your church before, now do so with great ease.

Question: If you were a pastor of a church, and you were approached by someone that wanted to preach what you knew to be heresy from your pulpit, would you allow him to preach heresy anyway? No, of course not. In fact, you would be considered to be a careful shepherd to the flock when refusing such a person access to your pulpit.

Later this same careful shepherd starts broadcasting his church services online. The same heretical preacher approaches him once again asking permission to preach what the careful shepherd and his congregation have already found to be heresy. Again the heritical preacher is refused access to the pulpit. But NOW the careful shepherd is considered a dictator?

How does broadcasting church serivices online make it any less a church?

Nicholas @ 18:07 PM Add Comment

Undershepherd_England: No, definitely we would not allow the heretical preacher to preach in our pulpit, otherwise they will deceive the brethren and God has not the permission for us to listen to this errors, for God will not protect and shield us if we listen to these errors. The good shepherd is not a dictator he is only protecting his sheep from the wolf in sheeps clothing. Thereby protecting them from damnation brought forth by this heresy. "I was shown the necessity of those who believe that we are having the last message of mercy, being separate from those who are daily imbibing new errors. I saw that neither young nor old should attend their meetings; for it is wrong to thus encourage them while they teach error that is a deadly poison to the soul and teach for doctrines the commandments of men. The influence of such gatherings is not good. If God has delivered us from such darkness and error, we should stand fast in the liberty wherewith He has set us free and rejoice in the truth. God is displeased with us when we go to listen to error, without being obliged to go; for unless He sends us to those meetings where error is forced home to the people by the power of the will, He will not keep us. The angels cease their watchful care over us, and we are left to the buffetings of the enemy, to be darkened and weakened by him and the power of his evil angels; and the light around us becomes contaminated with the darkness. {EW 124.3} I saw that we have no time to throw away in listening to fables. Our minds should not be thus diverted, but should be occupied with the present truth, and seeking wisdom that we may obtain a more thorough knowledge of our position, that with meekness we may be able to give a reason of our hope from the Scriptures. While false doctrines and dangerous errors are pressed upon the mind, it cannot be dwelling upon the truth which is to fit and prepare the house of Israel to stand in the day of the Lord. {EW 125.1} Undershepherd_England (04/22/07)

Nicholas:

Amen dear brother! What makes this so difficult to watch when some step away to become confused by the wolves is that they were warned about studying with such people in advance. The warnings granted them ample evidence of the numerous errors the wolves had to offer in their theology. Yet because the wolves display friendliness towards them they choose to ignore the Lord's written Word and study with them anyway. We as Christians can do very little to help people like this. We can only warn them the Lord will not protect them when they step out of His will. (Mat. 7:15-23; 12:50, 1Cor. 10:12) For some unkown reason some will of course ignore the plainly written warnings to eventually display the same fruits of those they study with that hate the truth. Now all we can do is pray for them and hope they repent before it's too late.

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(BTW... I deleted your second post. It was duplicate of your first for some reason.)

(04/22/07)

sunray: "My message to you is: No longer consent to listen without protest to the perversion of truth. Unmask the pretentious sophistries which, if received, will lead ministers and physicians and medical missionary workers to ignore truth. Every one now is to stand on his guard. God call upon men and women to take their stand under the blood-stained banner of Prince Emmanuel. I have been instructed to warn our people for many are in danger of receiving theories and sophistries that undermine the foundation pillars or the faith." Ellen G. White, Series B, No. 2: 29. (04/22/07)

Nicholas: Thank you Sunray! Powerful quote! (04/22/07)